13:56:53 From susanjonesarts : hello I'm @SusanJonesArts if you want to follow me.. 13:57:48 From Gillian Dyson : Hello - I’m new to the group, Here as an artist and representing CLAY Leeds a little bit too. Gillian 13:58:31 From pauldigby : Hi i have three projects on the go currently. one exhibition called Musical Mosaics at Leeds Museums from tomorrow and another exhibition at the Corn Exchange called The Imagined City with seven Leedsbased artists responding to Leeds. I am also in the process of submitting an arts council application with Jonathan Turner based on the artist Atkinson Grimshaw. Please contact me on pauldigby@me.com for more info. 13:59:41 From Gillian Dyson : GO to the Reactions button to show thumbs up 14:01:26 From Lucy Meredith : Hi all! 14:02:05 From Geraldine - Leeds Arts Health and Wellbeing Network : Hi all, Lovely to be here - Geraldine from Leeds Arts Health and Wellbeing Network. Great to see many friends and members here. 14:03:52 From Matt Allen : reactions at the bottom 14:04:37 From Andrew Cooper : Hello all. I'm the Green Party Candidate for West Yorkshire Mayor @clrandrewcooper 14:06:56 From Lucy Meredith : Lucy from Yorkshire Life aquatic, Tea & Tolerance, Leeds Community Homes & Zero Carbon Yorkshire! nice to see lots of friends here! 14:08:00 From LucyWright : Lucy Wright from Axis (Wakefield) here.. I’ll mostly be keeping pretty quiet, but grateful to have managed to make it to this event! 14:13:20 From Rochyne : Hello!! It's fab that you're all (virtually) here 14:17:43 From Mandeep Samra : Thanks Susan 14:17:49 From Geraldine - Leeds Arts Health and Wellbeing Network : Thanks Susan 14:18:11 From pauldigby : Excellent approach sue 14:18:11 From Alice Bradshaw : https://corridor8.co.uk/article/surviving-or-thriving-how-visual-artists-in-yorkshire-respond-to-being-called-resilient/ 14:18:16 From Mohammed Ali Amla : My name is Mohammed Ali, a director. I explore social division, good relations, conflict resolution through theatre, having worked across sectors. I describe myself as a multipotentialite, a researcher, activist, practitioner and policy maker. I have invested much of my time building bridges between research, communities, policy and practice. I was a strategic manager for a West Yorkshire local authority until recently, with a specialism in co-production, diversity, inclusion, equality and communities. 14:18:29 From Kerry Harker : Thanks Susan! 14:23:29 From Alice Bradshaw : Alice Bradshaw is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Topic: October Art Lab Time: Oct 5, 2020 08:00 PM London Join Zoom Meeting https://us04web.zoom.us/j/73921695271?pwd=UkRObzlpRFoxVFd3OWVrVjFjRlBrQT09 Meeting ID: 739 2169 5271 Passcode: 4c26sH 14:23:58 From Rochyne : Thanks Alice :) 14:24:41 From pauldigby : very interesting alice thanks 14:27:02 From pauldigby : UBI brilliant idea 14:27:38 From Andrew Cooper : Hand 14:28:52 From Toby Lloyd : https://www.ubilabnetwork.org/ 14:29:12 From Hannah Bentley (she/her) : https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/leeds-becomes-largest-city-uk-call-universal-basic-income-pilot-b468654.html 14:29:18 From Sue Ball, YVAN : I can something about re Levelling Up 14:29:40 From Toby Lloyd : We've only started recently, but there is now a UBI Lab Arts 14:29:41 From Toby Lloyd : https://twitter.com/ubilabarts 14:30:12 From Hannah Bentley (she/her) : thanks for raising UBI Tiffany 14:32:03 From susanjonesarts : for a history of work creation schemes for artists check out the strands of writing of @arestlessart and @arlenegoldbard - there is a zoom tomorrow morning and a series of pieces of writing on the parliamentofdreams website 14:33:04 From Andrew Cooper : Bilbao was an inspiration for arts in the city 14:35:25 From Andrew Cooper : Some of my thoughts on artts in Bilbao for info https://clrandrewcooper.blogspot.com/2019/03/huddersfield-town-centre-regeneration.html 14:37:43 From Rochyne : Thanks Andrew! 14:43:05 From Geraldine - Leeds Arts Health and Wellbeing Network : I think there is much to think about in the unique resources, hub and networks in Leeds City Region. 14:43:44 From Abigail Scott Paul - Leeds 2023 : On the discussion re UBI I wonder how it would work for art freelancers who move into work? Some of the research Joseph Rowntree Foundation has done to analyse UBI demonstrates that it is probably more effective to boost Universal Credit levels as it flexes when people move in and out of work, to prevent people from being pulled into poverty 14:45:11 From Mohammed Ali Amla : To speak of the elephant in the room, the arts and culture sector is often dominated by the white middle class often lacking diversity. Mainstream arts funding often excludes minority communities be that race or faith. I’m all for localised arts funding and commissioning, however there needs to be a rethink on arts and culture as a bridge which empowers communities which allows local people with the power to decide on the art being funded. I would also suggest that local authorities which are political institutions are not best placed for localised funding of the arts. 14:46:12 From Toby Lloyd : @abigail Scott Paul - UBI would not be affected by gaining or losing work. The whole point of UBI is that it would be unconditional and not means tested. 14:47:20 From Toby Lloyd : https://www.ubilabnetwork.org/faqs 14:48:31 From Abigail Scott Paul - Leeds 2023 : Here’s link to JRF work https://www.jrf.org.uk/blog/universal-basic-income-not-answer-poverty 14:48:42 From susanjonesarts : are they any downsides to UBI? Enterprise Allowance Scheme of the 80s had a similar role in the arts and subsidised self-employment. But do such schemes 'let institutions off the hook' when it comes to paying properly for the things they need from artists and making them equal partners in the development of what they do any why 14:48:49 From sohail khan : Diverse means many things x 14:48:58 From Andrew Cooper : Agree Councils aren't necessarily the best custodians of the arts and can be institutionally conservative which means they can lack the bravery to do experimental arts and play safe 14:50:00 From Maria Spadafora : Hi all. I’m a creative engagement manager (currently unemployed!), been in the sector over 25 years, working for numerous NPOS and other arts orgs. I also freelance, so have experienced both sides. Have carefully lobbied from ‘the inside’ around good practice guidance for freelances and rates, but it's a slog. Have witnessed inconsistent rates, sometimes due to variable and restricted budgets, and huge discrepancy between the lowest and highest paid freelances. And unfortunately, however unintentional, the ‘paygap’ between freelances almost always impacts on artists who are working class, women and/or from a Black, South Asian or other non-white background. Example: worked for an employer where the highest paid artists received £280 for a 3 hr session, and the lowest received £25 for 3 hrs. Without clear good practice guidance from ACE, and LCEPS and other partnerships agreeing to set freelance scales and stick to them, this sort of practice will unfortunately continue. 14:50:31 From Rochyne : I fully agree with the bravery statement - do you think this is because we are playing by a system that puts economic worth art the centre? 14:50:39 From Toby Lloyd : @susanjonesarts - UBI is not a silver bullet. It could be implemented badly. It would also need other policies to support it 14:51:37 From Abigail Scott Paul - Leeds 2023 : @susanjonesarts - biggest channel is getting the public on board with UBI so that politicians see there’s an electoral dividend for them 14:51:48 From Abigail Scott Paul - Leeds 2023 : Biggest challenge! 14:52:26 From Andrew Cooper : A Mayor's Arts Contact group to enable an ongoing dialoge on Arts policy might be an idea 14:52:42 From susanjonesarts : I agree Toby but as we are seeing right now policies can swiftly come and go in politics when there are seemingly more important things to do. The democratic processes are being squeezed in parliament kike never before. 14:52:42 From Madiha Ansari : I fully agree with your point on diversity Sohail. 14:52:53 From pauldigby : thanks everyone for today twitter is @DigbyPaul and instagram is pj.digby 14:52:54 From Lisa Mallaghan - Bradford Producing Hub : If you want to check out Bradford Producing Hub: www.bdproducinghub.co.uk or email me at lisam@bdproducinghub.org.uk 14:53:07 From Dr. Tiffany Holloman : UBI should be defined as a human developmental necessity rather than an economic save-all! 14:53:08 From Mandeep Samra : Thanks Sohail x 14:55:18 From Andrew (Same Skies) : if there is an area of this that you would be interested in being involved in after this conversation 14:55:24 From Andrew (Same Skies) : eg ubi, politics ... 14:55:34 From Cultural Institute : The eclipse slate report on the Slate programme and the reports from the work of the Freelancer Taskforce give ideas to take steps towards more diverse and democratic arts and culture in West Yorkshire eg https://eclipsetheatre.org.uk/news/1602-report-how-to-plant-magic-beans-and-build-rockets-to-the-moon 14:55:35 From Andrew (Same Skies) : post that in that chat 14:56:16 From Mohammed Ali Amla : Faith in art is a particular interest, unfortunately the secularisation of arts means that this area is often neglected or purposely ignored 14:56:27 From Andrew Cooper : My blog clrandrewcooper.blogspot.co.uk and twitter @clrandrewcooper 14:56:32 From Alice Bradshaw : Got to go on school run - thanks for inviting me to talk :) 14:56:56 From Frances Smith : Thanks to everyone who has contributed, really enjoyed the discussions. 14:57:00 From susanjonesarts : one big question that came up in a conversation with someone doing the #reset programme - what is the future useful role of institutions (which aren't any longer financially viable without massively larger subsidies). What more modole, responsive structures/frameworks might supersedethem? 14:57:05 From Rochyne : thanks Alice :) 14:58:19 From Cultural Institute : For anyone interested in failure there's research ongoing about failure in cultural participation led in Leeds https://www.culturalparticipation.co.uk/ 14:59:41 From Kate Buchanan : A fascinating presentation. I have learnt a lot. My role is as community musician and local parish councillor in Meltham (Kirklees) supporting the arts at the grassroots. We have had some success supporting a local, award winning photographer Olivia Hemingway to create a photographic posters series entitle 'Small Worlds: Lockdown in Meltham'. Check out www.carlileinstitue.co.uk 14:59:42 From Toby Lloyd : Excellent point Susan 15:00:01 From Kate Buchanan : carlileinstitute 15:00:09 From Lydia Catterall : Can we weave in the word ‘sustainability’? environmental, yes, but cultural and personal too. they’re all one and the same. 15:00:22 From Sue Ball, YVAN : whats next Andrew? 15:00:48 From Abigail Scott Paul - Leeds 2023 : Thanks very much everyone - happy to chat more or be involved other Same Skies events! 15:01:10 From Abigail Scott Paul - Leeds 2023 : Really keen to help make sure Leeds 2023/Bradford 2025 and culture is on the mayoral candidates agenda! 15:01:12 From Kerry Harker : Thanks Everyone! 15:01:25 From victoria bissett : a colleague of mine, tried to attend the meeting today, but was unable to due to her phone. Can she access the recording, or the chat later on? 15:02:11 From DBest : I would like to have heard more from a broader range of practitioners. What is happening about non artists taking part in the debate about art and culture. 15:02:24 From martyn : Thanks to Everyone! 15:03:03 From Rochyne : @dbest - could you email us and we can chat? 15:03:05 From BRobertson : Thanks everyone